"What you give is what you get"

What does trust mean for you?

Roberto - I guess that trust is something that you can take in all levels, you know. You can use it for example workwise, personal life, family, everything… You can use it with someone and tell them whatever you want to say. This other person will actually support you and understand what you’re saying. There are other people you can talk with, but they are not going to actually listen to you. They might feel “oh, this is weird…”. That’s when I feel that trust is not there. If someone looks at you in a different way or doesn’t understand who you are, then I think, it’s not really trust. So if you sound weird to someone, that person is not going to have the ability to trust you. Trust is about having certain values in common, but at the same time it’s when you have the ability to understand someone who isn’t like you. To respect someone you have to know them, but to know someone you have to talk with that person, and that person has to be willing to listen to you, and it’s not always that way…

What does it mean to be a man?

Roberto - I’m coming from the Spanish culture, so being a man… he’s the one who brings the money, who works, who looks after the family, who’s the strength. I like it because you feel that you protect something, you are covering anything under you, kids, friends, family. You have to be there for them and give them something, they are your priority, more than yourself. I think it sounds a little bit macho, but that’s how I’ve been raised. My father was always the strength of the family for example… But because I’ve been travelling, I’ve changed my mind a little bit. I like to see that a woman, a girlfriend or a mother, they are there when you need them. They are strong and supportive, as much as a brother or a father. But for me, now, it’s not just about being male or female, we all have strength but in my culture it’s supposed to come from the man. I think it’s changing a lot, and I like it. I like it because two strong people is better than one. For me, it’s common sense.


"What you give is what you get"


Is there anything you believe in?

Roberto - In Spain, religion is something that you don’t choose sometimes. You are pushed to it. I went to a catholic school with a priest and everything. I don’t follow much now… I used to believe in Jesus Christ and that someone was out there. My mentality has been changed now… I really believe in Earth, something I can really understand is energy. I believe that what you give is what you get. So if you are a good person, you transmit good energy. People with good energy will be close from you and will transmit the same energy back to you. It makes more sense to me, because it’s something you can actually feel. Faith is something you can have, or not. It’s basically in your head. But this, this you can feel. If you do good, good things happen. If you do bad things, bad things happen to you. I really believe in that. I believe in karma. And karma is a bitch. It’s like when you go somewhere, and you can feel like something’s wrong. You can really feel it. It’s not faith, it’s not something you believe or not. You feel it. I believe in our 6th sense and that’s energy.

Is there anything you’re grateful for?

Roberto - I’m really grateful for my parents, my family. Everything they’ve done for me… I wasn’t always appreciative of what they did for me when I was younger. But now I’m really grateful. They have been building the family up to the standards it’s got now. They made a big effort for me and my brother.. At the end of the day, family is never going to let you down. I’m there for the family and the family is there for me. Even when there’s an argument, you have to fix it. People come and go in your life, but family… family is here forever. I also have a couple of friends that… if they were not here, I’d have a really tough time. There’s this friend of mine, we’ve known each other since we were four years old. And we’re still having this great connection, we call each other every two days. We are family too. I’m also grateful for having this business. We’ll see how it goes, but after twelve years talking about it, I finally managed to get the money to do it. You know it’s one of these things, you talk so much about it… after a while it stops making sense. Well you have to do it. You just have to do it. It goes well, it goes well. It doesn’t, it doesn’t. No regrets.

Is there anything you’re afraid of?

Roberto - I really don’t like snakes, spiders… Apart from that, well, I’m always afraid to fail. It’s the way I’ve been raised. Failing is bad. Losing is bad. But when you hear about successful people, they’re happy. These happy people also talk about failing, but as a way of learning. It changes your perspective. But in the back of my mind, failing is bad. I’m afraid of failing at this business. But it gives me strength to carry on, because I don’t want to fail. I cannot fail. So I work hard. I believe that when you work hard, you get what you want. That’s what I fear… not fulfilling people’s expectations of me. And we put a lot of pressure on ourselves… even when we succeed. We should be telling ourselves “well done”. But no, no. We need to keep pushing ourselves and do even better.

What do you want from life?

Roberto - I would love to actually understand how to be happy. For example, I came to Bergen twelve years ago. Then I went to Spain for a year and a half. And now I’m back because of this work opportunity. But I was happy in Spain. I need to figure it out. On a daily basis, I’ve got a lot of great opportunities, a good time. But now, I’m coming to an age when being here means not being with my family in Spain. It’s what I’ve been doing for 20 years. But when I was back in Spain last year… I really enjoyed it. I’ve read somewhere that what makes you happy is not being successful professionally. It’s your relationships, who you have around. It’s quite interesting because I sacrificed something to be successful in my business. So now I have a little conflict about being successful at happiness. I’m handling it. But now I miss it. I miss my family. But I believe that whatever happens to you, good or bad, it’s coming to an end at some point. So I’m not worried. With good moments, we want more. With bad moments, there’s no need to worry. It’s going to stop. We’d like to be happy all the time, but we cannot. The only thing that helps is being with my best friend or with my family.